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but is there enough political will to do what it would take to save the next hadiya pendleton? hadiya was most likely killed with a handgun in a city that has been reeling from gun violence, a city that is seeing its crime rate soar, specifically homicide. a city where roughly 90% of the near record number of homicides last year were gun-related. a city where local gun laws are only as strong as national gun laws. "the new york times" broke this down recently. of 50,000 guns traced by chicago police, more than half came from outside illinois. mostly from indiana, mississippi, and wisconsin. the second amendment means we have a right to bear arms. should it also mean that there is no place in our political dialogue about the factors that made hadiya pendleton's murder possible? is it impossible to talk about removing handguns from our streets? is that simply too extreme? our first lady is going to be in chicago tomorrow attending the funeral of a child killed by gun violence. chances are while she is there another mother is going to get a call about another child whose life was
but is there enough political will to do what it would take to save the next hadiya pendleton? hadiya was most likely killed with a handgun in a city that has been reeling from gun violence, a city that is seeing its crime rate soar, specifically homicide. a city where roughly 90% of the near record number of homicides last year were gun-related. a city where local gun laws are only as strong as national gun laws. "the new york times" broke this down recently. of 50,000 guns traced by...
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today, n chicago, a 15-year-old hadiya pendleton will be buried. among her mourners, first lady michelle obama. pendleton was shot in the back and killed just days after she marched in the president's inaugural parade. >>> in los angeles, police are suddenly the targets of a man who used to wear the uniform. billboards are up as law enforcement agencies in three states hunt a former l.a. cop that's accused of killing an officer and threatening others. he says that he wants revenge on those who cost him his job. >>> police at the grammys will be on guard for their own safety since dorner's threats, but the show will go on. and a new name and suddenly a grammy favorite, singer frank ocean, had has surfaced. he has racked up six nominations including new artist of the year and album of the year. >>> the blizzard is still dumping snow across the northeast. some areas of connecticut are seeing as much as three feet of snow. the governor of connecticut orders all state roads closed until further notice or across the northeast, more than 650,000 customers
today, n chicago, a 15-year-old hadiya pendleton will be buried. among her mourners, first lady michelle obama. pendleton was shot in the back and killed just days after she marched in the president's inaugural parade. >>> in los angeles, police are suddenly the targets of a man who used to wear the uniform. billboards are up as law enforcement agencies in three states hunt a former l.a. cop that's accused of killing an officer and threatening others. he says that he wants revenge on...
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he said this to say about hadiya. >> what happened to hadiya is not unique. >> the pendletons say they're heartbroken to hear that another chicago family is now dealing with the death of a child. >> knowing how devastating this mother actually was because i can relate now, my heart is just totally -- i was devastated for her. >> the pendletons say they called the mcfarland family to offer their condolences and support. jenay mcfarland's parents said they talked about hadiya pendleton's murder days before she was killed. >> she said, mama, it's so sad. i feel so bad. every time she saw kids on tv, she's like, mama, i feel so bad for these people that have to leave their kids. >> jenay had a 3-month-old son who will now grow up without a mother. her parents say they'll raise him and try their best to keep him safe. sadly, jenay was not the only teenager to lose her life after the president' speech last week. 18-year-old francis cologne, who had just seen the president's helicopter flying over the city, was shot and killed at a chicago convenience store. she was an 18-year-old high school se
he said this to say about hadiya. >> what happened to hadiya is not unique. >> the pendletons say they're heartbroken to hear that another chicago family is now dealing with the death of a child. >> knowing how devastating this mother actually was because i can relate now, my heart is just totally -- i was devastated for her. >> the pendletons say they called the mcfarland family to offer their condolences and support. jenay mcfarland's parents said they talked about...
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hadiya pendleton's parents will be there tonight. she's the chicago teen shot and killed days after returning from washington where she attended president obama's inauguration. the first lady attended her funeral and police just arrested two men and charged them with her murder. the men mistook her and her friends for rival gang members. >>> later this morning, a subcommittee will hold a hearing to discuss ways to reduce gun violence. that committee will review new proposals and look at the legality and effectiveness of current laws. two professors will testify today. the family of hadiya pendleton will be at that hearing before heading to the state of the union. >>> jury selection continues in the man accused fd killing a mother and daughter. jason scott killed delores and ebony dewitt more than three years ago. their bodies were found in the trunk of a burning car in largo. scott is serving 100 years in prison for a sex assault and other crimes. his trial could take a month or longer. >>> if you're just waking up this morning, a mu
hadiya pendleton's parents will be there tonight. she's the chicago teen shot and killed days after returning from washington where she attended president obama's inauguration. the first lady attended her funeral and police just arrested two men and charged them with her murder. the men mistook her and her friends for rival gang members. >>> later this morning, a subcommittee will hold a hearing to discuss ways to reduce gun violence. that committee will review new proposals and look...
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the 15-year-old hadiya pendleton was killed a mile from where his job is. the connection is very real for him. the gun violence rate is one of the highest in the country. the poverty rate in the south side of chicago where he will be speaking today, where he was once a community organizer, one of the highest in the country. we've been here a couple of days, talking to community organizers. they say the need has never been greater. so when the president comes here, politically the main thing is to give his message from the state of the union and put it on the ground where the people are and where the situations require it and, of course, south side of chicago is a place where urban violence is very much a foot. however, there's going to be the looming question, are you just giving your speech or are you going to make good on the promises here where you call home? a lot of people are so happy to see the president but they will be even more happy if these words turn into actions and help create opportunities for the kids they say will wind up killing themselve
the 15-year-old hadiya pendleton was killed a mile from where his job is. the connection is very real for him. the gun violence rate is one of the highest in the country. the poverty rate in the south side of chicago where he will be speaking today, where he was once a community organizer, one of the highest in the country. we've been here a couple of days, talking to community organizers. they say the need has never been greater. so when the president comes here, politically the main thing is...
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is a-year-old hadiya pendleton was shot tase after performing at president obama's inauguration festivities. two men have been charged in the death. the president is expected to talk about gun violence during the state of the union. >>> in the wake of the connecticut shooting and other tragedy a-- tragedies across the u.s. a mental health forum will take place in maryland today. they will talk about what progress has been made in iding and treating mental illness. it will be at anne arundel community college from 9 to 11. >>> five things to know this morning. mayor stephanie rawlings blake will join leaders in tearingdone vacant property -- down vacant property. it aims at enhancing the values of probably in the city and building better neighborhood. >>> the library will have a document signed by abraham lincoln on display for the first time. the presidential appointment signed by the 16th president will be on display only from 11 to 4 in the main hall of the central library. >>> the coast guard will opening a hearing on the sinking of the tall ship bounty. the hms wouldn'ty took on water -
is a-year-old hadiya pendleton was shot tase after performing at president obama's inauguration festivities. two men have been charged in the death. the president is expected to talk about gun violence during the state of the union. >>> in the wake of the connecticut shooting and other tragedy a-- tragedies across the u.s. a mental health forum will take place in maryland today. they will talk about what progress has been made in iding and treating mental illness. it will be at anne...
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. >>> two reputed chicago gang members have been charged in the shooting death of hadiya pendleton who died days after she performed at president obama's inauguration. 18-year-old michael ward and 20-year-old kenneth williams said pendleton was not the intended target. they thought they were firing on a rival gang. pendleton's parents will attend the state of the union address tonight. >>> coming up in the morning news, stranded ship. thousands of passengers on a carnival cruise face deteriorating conditions after their ship becomes disabled. this is the "cbs morning news." disabled. this is the "cbs morning news." maybe today you'll run some errands maybe another headache will get in the way. if you have migraines with 15 or more headache days a month, you're living a maybe life. and you may have chronic migraine. go to mychronicmigraine.com to find a headache specialist. and don't live a maybe life. hey! hey honey! hey alan. uh, hey.... i'm bob, we talked at the tax store. i did your taxes. i thout you were a tax expert? today, i'm a master plumber. major tax stores advertise for pre
. >>> two reputed chicago gang members have been charged in the shooting death of hadiya pendleton who died days after she performed at president obama's inauguration. 18-year-old michael ward and 20-year-old kenneth williams said pendleton was not the intended target. they thought they were firing on a rival gang. pendleton's parents will attend the state of the union address tonight. >>> coming up in the morning news, stranded ship. thousands of passengers on a carnival...
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. >> first lady michelle obama also invited the parents of 15- year-old hadiya pendleton to sit next to her. she was killed in chicago not long after participating in the inaugural parade here in d.c. >>> also at the address, virginia congressman jerry connelly invited the father of a student killed in the virginia tech massacre. sick students killed in the tragedy were all residents of his congressional district. >>> several other guests seated with the first lady including a few from this area. jack androca is a teenager who developed a new way to detect pancreatic cancer. tracy hepner is the founder of a military partners and families coalition to provide support for lgbt residents. >>> coming up next, it could have been a nightmare scenario. >> a crane collapses above a church with preschoolers playing inside. how one worker's quick thinking got everyone out safely. we'll be right back. [ mom ] dear chex cereal, i just had to write. you can't imagine how long i've been searching for something like this for my family. i'm amazed you make so many great flavors that are gluten free.
. >> first lady michelle obama also invited the parents of 15- year-old hadiya pendleton to sit next to her. she was killed in chicago not long after participating in the inaugural parade here in d.c. >>> also at the address, virginia congressman jerry connelly invited the father of a student killed in the virginia tech massacre. sick students killed in the tragedy were all residents of his congressional district. >>> several other guests seated with the first lady...
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after attending the funeral of hadiya pendleton, the young chicago honor student shot dead in chicago just a week after she performed as a majorette in the president's inauguration parade in washington, d.c., just after attending the young woman's funeral this weekend, the first lady, michelle, will be hosting her mother, hadiya pendleton's mother as one of the guests for the president's speech. interestingly, a number of the democratic members of the house, democratic members of congress, i should say, both houses, have also announced that they have given tickets to the speech to relatives and friends of people who have been killed by gun violence. including relatives and friends of victims of the aurora mass shooting, aurora, colorado, and the newtown mass shooting from december, and the tucson mass shooting. former congresswoman gabby giffords and her husband will be attending as guests of her replacement in congress ron barber, who was gabby giffords' staffer and who was himself wounded in the tucson shooting. they'll also be guests of senator john mccain. gabby giffords' politica
after attending the funeral of hadiya pendleton, the young chicago honor student shot dead in chicago just a week after she performed as a majorette in the president's inauguration parade in washington, d.c., just after attending the young woman's funeral this weekend, the first lady, michelle, will be hosting her mother, hadiya pendleton's mother as one of the guests for the president's speech. interestingly, a number of the democratic members of the house, democratic members of congress, i...
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it was just last weekend that first lady michelle obama attended the funeral for hadiya pendleton. she's the chicago teen who was shot and killed just a week after performing for the inauguration. >>> the nomination of chuck hagel to be defense secretary hitting another road block. senate republicans have stalled his nomination for another two weeks. the senate could not come up with enough votes to end a republican filibuster. >> on this vote, the ayes are 58, nays 40. three-fifths of the senators not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to. >> i enter a hoegs we consider a motion we consider a vote in which closure was not invoked. >> we want to bring in dana bash. you are all things expert in all these procedures that are taking place. i understand this is a delay. tell us first of all why did it happen and do we think this will go through. >> why did this happen, the republicans who voted against stopping the filibuster said they wanted more time. that many of them who i spoke, to many republican senators, said that they were voting no yesterday, but that t
it was just last weekend that first lady michelle obama attended the funeral for hadiya pendleton. she's the chicago teen who was shot and killed just a week after performing for the inauguration. >>> the nomination of chuck hagel to be defense secretary hitting another road block. senate republicans have stalled his nomination for another two weeks. the senate could not come up with enough votes to end a republican filibuster. >> on this vote, the ayes are 58, nays 40....
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pendleton. they are charged with murder and attempted murder. they say the teenagers' death was a tragic mistake. >> michael ward has confessed and indicated that hadiya was not the intended target. in fact, the offenders had it all wrong. they thought the group they shot into included members of a rival gang. >> just days before her death, hadiya pendleton was in washington performing at president obama's inauguration. tomorrow on "starting point" we'll touk alk to cleopatra blendleton, hadiya's mother. >>> the white house says the president now opposes a plan to increase the rage from 65 to 67 for medicare. he was willing to consider a move in december of 2011 but told no longer willing to consider that but he is still willing to consider lowering medicare cost of living adjustments if republicans will compromise on new tax revenues, that will be controversial with democr democrats. >>> a soggy start to fat tuesday celebrations in new orleans. the national weather service says morning parade g
pendleton. they are charged with murder and attempted murder. they say the teenagers' death was a tragic mistake. >> michael ward has confessed and indicated that hadiya was not the intended target. in fact, the offenders had it all wrong. they thought the group they shot into included members of a rival gang. >> just days before her death, hadiya pendleton was in washington performing at president obama's inauguration. tomorrow on "starting point" we'll touk alk to...
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police say one of the suspects has confessed to firing into a crowd that killed hadiya pendleton. they say that she apparently -- rather he apparently mistook the group of students for members of a rival gang. hadiya's killing has become a national symbol of gun violence. her parents will sit with michelle obama at tonight's state of the union. >> that's certainly a nice gesture. you have to wonder how heavily the president will hit on that tonight. they said unlike the inaugural speech, this will be an address much more focused on the economy than some of the other issues. >> and just going back to that for one second. the two people charged, 18 and 20 years old. very young men. >> babies killing babies. >>> in other news, heavy rain is slowing down the cleanup effort after that powerful tornado tore through the state of mississippi. the twister barreled through three counties for 75 miles, damaging or destroying near lly 600 homes. he was an e-4 and more than 80 people were hurt but amazingly no one was killed. >> so your dad's ashes -- >> they were in the front living room. >>
police say one of the suspects has confessed to firing into a crowd that killed hadiya pendleton. they say that she apparently -- rather he apparently mistook the group of students for members of a rival gang. hadiya's killing has become a national symbol of gun violence. her parents will sit with michelle obama at tonight's state of the union. >> that's certainly a nice gesture. you have to wonder how heavily the president will hit on that tonight. they said unlike the inaugural speech,...
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and, of course, the hadiya pendleton death that happened most recently, her parents in the president's box for the state of the union, the first lady attended her funeral, she was collateral damage here in the gang warfare here authorities say, also piques interest in this situation. fraught with concerns for the president, and i want to bring in gloria borger about this, gloria, if you can hear me right now, the president is basically coming back home in one respect, but this is also the home of the biggest problems that are going to be most difficult to solve, poverty and violence. what do you make of it? >> don't forget, the mayor of chicago, rahm emanuel, a very good friend of his, he used to work for him as his white house chief of staff. look, this is part of what the president does after his state of the union. he takes his hopes, dreams, aspirations for the country, on the road. part of that is, of course, attacking gun violence. so there is no way to avoid it. in fact, one would argue that when you talk about gun violence, in urban areas, it is a place you to talk about it. an
and, of course, the hadiya pendleton death that happened most recently, her parents in the president's box for the state of the union, the first lady attended her funeral, she was collateral damage here in the gang warfare here authorities say, also piques interest in this situation. fraught with concerns for the president, and i want to bring in gloria borger about this, gloria, if you can hear me right now, the president is basically coming back home in one respect, but this is also the home...
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pendleton. >> hadiya's parents, nate and cleo, are in the chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a the peoples of aurora deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other community ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote. >> that was really the most dramatic moment of the speech last night. >> and interesting optics around it. let's bring in done b encbaer, r speechwriter, helping president clinton draft speeches from '95 until the end of his term. and chair of the global marketing firm. >> thank you. >> interesting to see the moment where you see the vice president stands, the house majority leader standing and at some point you realize the political debate going on behind what the president is saying, right? everybody is clapping. i thought it was interesting -- >> speaker boehner chose to stop clapping and sits down. is that odd to you too? >> very muc
pendleton. >> hadiya's parents, nate and cleo, are in the chamber tonight, along with more than two dozen americans torn apart by gun violence. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. they deserve a vote. gabby giffords deserves a vote. the families of newtown deserve a the peoples of aurora deserve a vote. the families of oak creek and tucson and blacksburg and the countless other community ripped open by gun violence, they deserve a simple vote. >> that was really the most...
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in the crowd was mother of hadiya pendleton, the 15-year-old honor student who was shot and killed just a week after attending the inauguration. >> fortunately, what happened to hadiya is not unique. too many of our children are being taken away from us. two months ago, america mourned 26 innocent first graders and their educators in newtown. the overwhether he will ming majority of americans are asking for some common sense proposals to make it harder for criminals to get their hands on a gun. these proposals deserve a vote in congress. they deserve a vote. >> they deserve a vote. these victims of violence deserve courage from our leaders. this morning, at the white house, the president got emotional. wiping away a tear while announcing medals for the teachers and educators at sandyhook elementary who died trying to protect their kids. >> they had no idea that evil was about to strike. they could have taken shelter by themselves, but they didn't. they gave their lives to protect the precious children in their care. they gave all they had for the most innocent and helpless among us. and
in the crowd was mother of hadiya pendleton, the 15-year-old honor student who was shot and killed just a week after attending the inauguration. >> fortunately, what happened to hadiya is not unique. too many of our children are being taken away from us. two months ago, america mourned 26 innocent first graders and their educators in newtown. the overwhether he will ming majority of americans are asking for some common sense proposals to make it harder for criminals to get their hands on...
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this comes as the city is trying to heal from the tragic death of hadiya pendleton. she was the 15-year-old honor student, the drum majorette who performed in washington. hadiya was killed a week later on a playground about a mile north of president obama's home. hadiya's parents, cleo cowley pendleton and nathaniel pendleton are joining us here. first of all, our condolences to you and your family. we see your strength over the last couple of weeks. we saw ayou as guests of the president, in part of the state of the union address. and we see you with the visit with the president himself in chicago. you hear about this death of miss macfarlane, how do you make sense of this, what do you do? how did you react? >> i was deeply saddened. we've been out and talking about the various news media about how awful this feels. definitely, my heart went out to the family. i actually gave her money a call yesterday morning. >> you can tell me about that call, what you were able to say to her, what you were able to convey at this time? >> no, it was really just extending my condo
this comes as the city is trying to heal from the tragic death of hadiya pendleton. she was the 15-year-old honor student, the drum majorette who performed in washington. hadiya was killed a week later on a playground about a mile north of president obama's home. hadiya's parents, cleo cowley pendleton and nathaniel pendleton are joining us here. first of all, our condolences to you and your family. we see your strength over the last couple of weeks. we saw ayou as guests of the president, in...
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and our hearts are still heavy with the loss last month of hadiya pendleton, another young woman of color from chicago who was gunned down as another victim in the city's epidemic of violence just days after returning from marching here in d.c. for an inaugural parade for the inauguration of barack obama. we bring hadiya forward because even as the national mall's a space of healing, the symbolic justice granted for those of us who go to it can only be guaranteed further with greater forms of action beyond the maps, beyond the mall's mapped boundaries. to carry us forward through tragedy and towards transformation, we say the names of dr. michael eric dyson and reverend marcia dyson. scholars and leaders like them, they have taught me and so many others so much about intellectual inquiry that flows through the head and the heart and always between peoples. to the 250,000-plus attendees of the march whose names we don't know well enough, we hope to know more of you. we want to hear your stories, and we want to be able to both record them and speak them out ourselves. as they'll nourish bot
and our hearts are still heavy with the loss last month of hadiya pendleton, another young woman of color from chicago who was gunned down as another victim in the city's epidemic of violence just days after returning from marching here in d.c. for an inaugural parade for the inauguration of barack obama. we bring hadiya forward because even as the national mall's a space of healing, the symbolic justice granted for those of us who go to it can only be guaranteed further with greater forms of...
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the president also talked about one of chicago's victims of gun violence. 15-year-old hadiya pendleton. >> it's not unique, it's not unique to chicago, it's not unique to this country. too many of our children are being taken away from us. >> remember hadiya was gunned down just days after performing at the president's inauguration. her parents were at yesterday's speech as well as tuesday's state of the union address. >>> and on the subject of guns, we know now how christopher dorner's life came to an end earlier this week. it wasn't from smoke or fire from the burning cabin but from a single gun shot wound to the head. nick valencia has been following this story closely. that answers the question. but whose bullet was it? could it have been suicide? a bullet from police? >> well, the autopsy reveals, susan, he likely died to a single gun shot wound to the head. but the way things played out in the final moments, there's a lot of questions. that cabin was intentionally set fire to by police. was it a gun shot wound from one of the police officers from the san bernardino sheriff's depa
the president also talked about one of chicago's victims of gun violence. 15-year-old hadiya pendleton. >> it's not unique, it's not unique to chicago, it's not unique to this country. too many of our children are being taken away from us. >> remember hadiya was gunned down just days after performing at the president's inauguration. her parents were at yesterday's speech as well as tuesday's state of the union address. >>> and on the subject of guns, we know now how...
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the mother of hadiya pendleton made this video. >> a piece of my heart is gone. congress is debating how to fix our gun laws. they can start with background checks for all gun sales. tell congress to support common sense reforms so no more innocent children are killed. and no parent has to go through this heartbreak. >> this ad comes in the middle of president obama's push for tougher gun control legislation. abc's reena ninan is in washington this morning. reena, does the white house get a sense they're gaining traction on this issue, despite all of the opposition in congress? >> reporter: all the issues are pushing of all of them. they believe universal background checks might be the most likely to get pushed through in congress. there's still very much a tough uphill battle. but what is helping the white house, unfortunately, are the sad, sad cases of these shootings. sandy hook. yesterday, we saw the president actually break down and cry as he was delivering some awards to people who were there, adults involved in this situation, with that shooting. universal
the mother of hadiya pendleton made this video. >> a piece of my heart is gone. congress is debating how to fix our gun laws. they can start with background checks for all gun sales. tell congress to support common sense reforms so no more innocent children are killed. and no parent has to go through this heartbreak. >> this ad comes in the middle of president obama's push for tougher gun control legislation. abc's reena ninan is in washington this morning. reena, does the white...
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hadiya pendleton, and understood in an inspiration to our friends, all walking angel her cousin called her. she was taken from us two weeks ago. her family is here today. a student at northern illinois university, with a warm heart and bright future, murdered in her classroom by a man with a history of mental illness. her mother is here today. blair holt, killed while shielding his friends from a gang members spraying fire on a city bus. his friend is here today. marcus norris, hit in the face by a bullet that came through the wall of his house. thank god he survived. we are glad to have him here today. a true american hero who dedicated his life to serving his country and his community, killed by gang members with a straw purchase gun. i attended his funeral service. the officer's family is here, and his sister will testify today. there are many more in this room today whose lives and families have been changed by gun violence. i would like to ask the friends and family of the victims of gun violence to please stand. look about his room. understand that the debate we have before us ha
hadiya pendleton, and understood in an inspiration to our friends, all walking angel her cousin called her. she was taken from us two weeks ago. her family is here today. a student at northern illinois university, with a warm heart and bright future, murdered in her classroom by a man with a history of mental illness. her mother is here today. blair holt, killed while shielding his friends from a gang members spraying fire on a city bus. his friend is here today. marcus norris, hit in the face...